Investor Who Predicted Subprime Meltdown Sees Massive Bond Losses

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As the U.S.-China trade war heats up, raising risks for the U.S. economy and U.S. securities markets, money manager Steve Eisman of Neuberger Berman Group warns that the next recession will create “massive losses” in the U.S. corporate bond market, in remarks to Bloomberg. Eisman is famous for foreseeing the U.S. subprime mortgage crisis that became a key catalyst for the global 2008 financial crisis, and reaping huge profits through short sales. As of March 2007, the value of subprime mortgages was about $1.3 trillion.


Today, the debt of U.S. corporations is near an all-time high relative to GDP, and its overall quality is deteriorating, Barron’s reports. Eisman, meanwhile, believes that the U.S. financial system is strong, but added, “that doesn’t mean we won’t have a recession…And in a recession I think there will be massive losses in the bond markets because there’s a lack of liquidity.” Eisman’s viewpoint is encapsulated in the table below.


Eisman’s Bearish View

  • The next recession will cause “massive losses” in corporate bonds
  • Lack of liquidity in the corporate bond market will magnify losses
  • Biggest losses will be low quality BBB and junk debt

Source: Bloomberg


Significance for Investors

Getting more specific, Eisman continued: “You will see big losses in things like triple-B corporate debt, high-yield etcetera, but you need a recession first. Corporate debt isn’t going to cause the next recession, but it’s where the pain will be in the next recession.” Triple-B corporate bonds are the lowest category of investment grade debt, and now represent about 50% of the investment grade market, per Barron’s.


Nonetheless, both Goldman Sachs and Deutsche Bank believe that the corporate bond market bears are unduly pessimistic, for reasons outlined in the table below, based on another Barron’s article plus the one cited above.


Goldman Sachs and Deutsche Bank: No Need to Worry

Goldman finds:

  • Corporate debt well within historic ranges vs. cash flow & assets
  • They looked at all non-financial companies, public and private
  • Historically low interest rates justify higher levels of debt
  • Interest payments are smaller % of cash flow than 10 years ago
  • Economic growth and corporate cash flows have become steadier

Deutsche Bank says:

  • Debt to GDP is the wrong metric
  • Debt to EBITDA makes more sense, and is far from a record high

Source: Barron’s

Back to the bears. Among those sharing Eisman’s view is Jeff Gundlach, the multi-billionaire co-founder of mutual fund company DoubleLine Capital, which manages more than $115 billion in assets, per Forbes. “The corporate bond market will really have problems when you have negative GDP [i.e., a recession],” he stated at a recent event, as quoted by Business Insider. Like Eisman, Gundlach is particularly worried about the increasingly high degree of leverage among companies rated BBB or lower.


Gundlach cited an Aug. 2018 report from Morgan Stanley which indicated that 45% of what is now rated as investment grade would be downgraded to junk bond status if leverage were the only rating criterion, up sharply from 30% in early 2017 and a mere 8% in 2011. “If there’s a downturn in the economy, you can’t fix these problems [i.e., high leverage ratios],” he observed.



Looking Ahead

Given that the subprime crisis and the broader financial crisis that followed also played roles in triggering the so-called Great Recession of 2007-09, as well as the last bear market in stocks during the same years, equity investors should keep a close eye on the corporate bond market today.




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